Time Traveler John Titor's Claims Need To Be Revisited As Gloomy 2022 Nears
The 2000 Internet message board "time traveler" from the year 2036 — from after America had broken into 5 unified regions, and after a brief but nuclear World War III — may have been real. Whoa.
There’s something on my mind lately that’s on almost no one else’s mind, and that’s forgotten and “discredited” Internet time traveler, John Titor.
For those who don’t know the story, Titor was a kind of proto-Q, except with some important distinctions: Titor wasn’t part of any movement, he repeatedly said he wasn’t trying to convince anyone of his authenticity (he saw the futility in doing so), he admitted total accuracy as far as predictions goes is impossible due to divergence of “worldlines” (more on that in a moment), he had nothing to sell, had no riddles to solve, no merchandise to peddle, and mysteriously left — as he said he would — before he could outstay his welcome with Internet researchers.
We are now at the weird point in time, less than two days from 2022, where John Titor’s musings about America and the world in 2036 — right or wrong — are talking about a moment in the future now closer to us than the time when Titor wrote his predictions online, back in late 2000 and early 2001.
Think about that. We’re closer to the distant future once speculated about online, than we are to the days when those people on the Internet wrote their posts. Beyond the point of no return in our worldline, as it were.
He signed off about six months before 9/11/2001, and quite specifically predicted the next 10 or 15 years of US-led occupation in the Middle East, and also predicted an eventual world war closer to 2015 in which the “American Federal Empire” would fall.
He seems to have clearly predicted the failure of the Space Shuttle Columbia two years before it occurred on February 1, 2003.
“Care to share with me how you solved the overheating problem on your space plane?” he asks in a 2001 post.
Columbia disintegrated on re-entry two years later, researchers believe due to a faulty heat shield, and all aboard were killed.
And as one Titor fan points out, in the 2030s it would be normal to refer to the long forgotten American Space Shuttle program as a “space plane,” because that’s what it is to a layman.
“NASA’s space shuttle program has been shuttered for almost 10 years, now, so perhaps it’s not so unusual for Titor to refer to it as a ‘space plane.’ From his point of view, the program would’ve perhaps been a forgotten footnote in history, something he didn’t remember much about,” the site Stranger Dimensions suggests.
Titor’s premonition about war in the Middle East, and claims that Iraq specifically had obtained weapons of mass destruction would be the driver of that war… is one of the most impressive geopolitical predictions he makes.
According to that same site, “It’s certainly possible that these statements were simply the result of foresight or good political guesses, especially since the United States had already been involved with Iraq during the Gulf War. Even so, this is perhaps one of Titor’s most compelling statements about our then-future, made before it happened.”
With now 21 years of hindsight, the whole Internet should read Titor over again.
I don’t want to spoil the rest of it with my analysis or thoughts — my own thoughts are still undeveloped, as I’m genuinely mind blown here.
The other great scam of the 1990s and early 00s Internet was “Nesara,” the rumored but never realized National Economic Security and Recovery Act, which relied on a currency collapse happening (which never did) and it pushed people toward a bunch of prepper nonsense, before fading out of view. I think I was too young for that one, because I don’t remember reading about it at all. And John Titor I similarly wouldn’t first hear about until many years after his online postings; he wasn’t widely known or famous back in 2001, when he was making the posts and answering people’s questions. Aside from discussion on Coast to Coast AM, which took his claims somewhat seriously then, and in subsequent years.
My gut instinct after closely reviewing all of his still available and archived public interactions may surprise you:
A lot checks out.
The most troubling thing about John Titor's two decade old Internet postings about discoveries at CERN that since fucking occurred, and political shifts that since happened, and advances in Internet technology that are now reality… as a fan of the Internet, John Titor got more things right about the fundamental state of “future Internet” in our present or near future more correct than some tech billionaires did in their books back then about the future of now… the troubling thing here is that Titor may not have been a scammer at all.
Unlike Q, he left precisely when he was done with us. He didn’t linger for tips and merchandise sales. He went back to 2036, or the insane asylum.
And the predictions that don’t check out at all — well, Titor fans have the perfect alibi, one that disheartened Q groupies can’t cling onto in any similar fashion, and that’s Titor’s view that his original “world line” (basically, a timeline in the infinite multiverse) could deviate from ours by up to 2.5% — some events that happened there, never happen here, and vice versa.
For example, as I perceive it at least, America was kinda close to a testy nuclear exchange with Russia pre-2016 election. Hillary was advocating all kinds of strong responses to Putin’s rhetoric, and I remember saying to a friend before the election, if Hillary wins, it wouldn’t surprise me if we all end up nuking each other. Apocalypse.
So orange blob wins instead, and maybe that’s one of the meaningful points where our worldline diverges from Titor’s.
If you buy his view on the physics of time travel, which is frankly quite strong.
Titor suggests that after the American civil war concludes and World War III ends shortly after that (Russia basically acting as the France in America’s second revolution, nuking federally loyal city centers and allowing restoration of constitutional power with some caveats to the people everywhere else — leading to a Constitutional Congress and different, but still somewhat similar, revised federal system being installed), life gets kinda good — those who remain work to clear the world of the damage from the war, and also technology advances rapidly, time travel being invented in his time as the most obvious change, and weirdly Titor complains that people in the future get colds all the time… in our current ‘pandemic forever’ reality, or world line, that seems wildly prescient.
I can totally see why naive American Internet readers in late 2000 — before innocence was lost to 9/11, then two decades later further degraded by COVIDpocalypse — found John Titor entertaining, but vaguely ridiculous.
Today readers may find it all vaguely ridiculous, but oddly important, oddly very now.
Hey David! Very interesting. I had to ditch my old email address. Will you please add this new address to your records? Thank you, nice to be in touch again.
I wonder what you’re actually thinking these days lol